#170 Apprenticeships, Sabbaticals & "Good Work" — Steve Schlafman & Matt Yao on slowing down, deprogramming, unlearning, learning from others, deciding to quit, going on a sabbatical, not being jealous anymore, competitiveness and enoughness, finding good work, ambition, the apprenticeship, Downshift, decelerator, marriage, family and reframing money

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Steve is a professional coach and the founder of Downshift — the world's first decelerator. He has left a career in venture, but he remains ambitious, it's just that his ambition is now to have a good, multidimentional life, where he can be a good dad for his kids.
Matt has left a traditional path early on to write, travel and discover his own path. When he met Steve, he offered him to become his apprentice and joined Downshift.
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Links:

• Downshift
• Steve's website
• Steve's Twitter
• Matt's Twitter
• Matt's blog — Game of One
• Matt's blog — Build in Climate
• Downshift on Twitter

⌛TIMESTAMPS

• (00:00) - Intro
• (02:14) - The scripts that Steve & Matt grew up with
• (05:00) - Slowing down, deprogramming and unlearning
• (11:52) - The cocoon stage
• (14:05) - Deciding to quit
• (18:25) - Learning from others on the path and having children
• (25:18) - Trust
• (28:29) - Matt's sabbatical, finding good work
• (34:26) - No jealousy, competitiveness vs enoughness
• (38:36) - Matt's apprenticeship with Steve
• (47:45) - Putting yourself in a place where it's easy to help you
• (51:43) - Downshift & Ambition
• (01:02:14) - Marriage & Family
• (01:10:02) - Reframing money, skiing and oatmeal
• (01:16:23) - Launching decelerator
• (01:20:34) - Closing remarks