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The TV Show That Was Fun Until It Wasn’t & The New Bookshelf Rule

42 min

Thu 5 Nov 2026, 23:502 days ago

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Em Vernem changes the books on her shelf every time a date comes over. Margaret Atwood goes front and centre. So does a novel she hasn't actually read. Today Jessie Stephens wants to know how we're all arranging our books, and why a fantasy series coming out two centimetres taller has sent Em into a full meltdown.

Plus, Holly Wainwright asks whether there's any such thing as guilt-free reality TV, after Celebrity Traitors UK ended under a duty of care cloud.

Also, Em explains how a 20-year-old just became Formula One world champion and why his teammate went silent on the radio.

And for our recommendations, Jessie has cheated on us with another podcast, Holly watched a horror movie on purpose, and Em has a dip worth taking to a party.

Plus, Holly has a new book coming out! You can pre order her book here.
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Recommendations
Em recommends the snack the3 Layer nacho dip and if you can't find it to make your own.
Jessie recommends her brand new podcast, Lazy Girl Hour.
Holly recommends Backrooms and to preorder her upcoming book, What I Did To Deserve You.
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