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The Bad Guys Are Winning

52 min

Derek talks to The Atlantic's Anne Applebaum on the decline of democracy and the rise of a new form of authoritarianism in Russia, China, Europe, and the U.S.
Host: Derek Thompson
Guest: Anne Applebaum
Producer: Devon Manze

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